Comments on: Two Mega-church Pastors in Dallas, Two Completely Different Views from the Media

By: fwlover

fwlover — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:43:21 +0000

I would also ask that you remove the POST by NYTN, I clicked on his/her account and due to MULTIPLE violations of the YouTube policies, that person has been removed by the corporation.
If you dig a little deeper on the issue, you will see a very vindictive poster that simply stirs the pot and so far 100% of the time I have located the posts, they have been removed.
Just a thought.

By: fwlover

fwlover — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:41:08 +0000

With all due respect, the success of these two men is without question…amazing. They both have the same goal, just different ways to attain them. I can’t see how comments like NYTN put in this thread as anything constructive whatsoever. Although your link NYTN was unable to be opened, I found that lesson online and you are completely inaccurate in your description of the tithing comment. The message was simple from Young, he (and I paraphrase so we’re clear) simply spoke ABOUT tithing and the biblical truth that it encompasses, and laid it out as clear as day: “if you don’t agree with tithing, then you don’t agree with the bible”
I did not see one mention of “not coming back” to the church…but he did mention that the issue is between you and God.
Does it really seem fair that we constantly beat up pastors due to one or two sermons (or even worse 4-6 minutes OF a 45 minute sermon) and forget their overall work?
When we get to heaven, these men will be responsible for millions that we see when we get there…and I think keeping our eye on the ball is more important than tearing down an individual.
Personally speaking…I have run into more people that have a problem with “my church” (and yes, it’s a MEGA also) based upon rumors or plain and simple misconstrued comments than ANYONE that has ever had the facts correct. The biggest issue, most have never been to the campus.
I think it’s important for us all to know NYTN…what PERSONAL attack did Pastor Young do to you, in what way did he hurt you or your family? Because what I saw, and what I have watched…this is a “non-denominational” pastor that is a BAPTIST just like his daddy. I have never ONCE seen him preach something unbiblical, it just seems to me that when people get slapped in the face for something they are doing (or perhaps not doing like tithing right?!?) they attack…instead of accepting their shortcomings and attempting to change.
Isn’t it easier to attack the pastor than realize he has uncovered our faults…

By: Clyde Burke

Clyde Burke — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:08:22 +0000

I am still cnfused are the Ed young’ one in the same?

By: Clyde Burke

Clyde Burke — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:56:49 +0000

I am still confused are the two Edwin young’s one in the same?

By: NYTN

NYTN — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 05:23:49 +0000

With all due respect to the writer, Ed Young IS NOT a “good guy” and he IS NOT “leading his church properly”. Ed Young is a master manipulator and false teacher. And the evidence is clearly provided in publicly available video where he is preaching on “tithing”.

If You Can’t Tithe, ‘DON’T COME BACK!’, Says Big-Time, Super-Hip TV Pastor ED YOUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksKon8kunEE

Now after you watch that and you still say he’s a “good guy”, then I would most assuredly be convinced that you are an illicit drug user.

By: Kevin Rossen

Kevin Rossen — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 05:48:16 +0000

Thanks for the feedback. I agree with you that Ed’s not a bad guy. I’ve read one of his books and listened to quite a few of his podcasts. He’s a sharp guy and has a lot to offer churches. You make some good insights into Jesus’ style of ministry, too. I hope you’ll comment again on a future post!
(Also, sorry for the delay in getting your comment posted)

By: CoachRogers

CoachRogers — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:26:09 +0000

It’s so easy to judge here and say because Ed is successful and wealthy that he’s doing it by dishonest means, and that Matt because he’s very humble and lives simply that one’s the ‘good guy’ and one’s the ‘bad guy’. That’s just not true. I’ve known Matt Chandler since 1998, I went to college with him and Hardin-Simmons University, and that’s just the way he rolls. I’ve known Ed Young since 2001, he’s a great guy that wants to reach what he sees as a very materialistic and entertainment-driven city(which Dallas/Ft Worth is) where they are. The ‘poverty’ doctrine was never part of Jesus’ teachings or lifestyle. Jesus was a 1st century Rabbi, and by Jewish law, to be a Rabbi in those days meant having enough money to take on the burdens of an entire community, or you were not given the title. He had a treasurer! Read the Gospel accounts in John, Judas regularly stole from the treasury as the treasurer! What person who has two nickels barely to rub together wouldn’t notice if someone stole from the ‘treasury’? Christians need to get over this way of thinking and look at the man and how he treats the people around him: his staff, people at his congregation, and maybe even more important those who serve him(yes, even waiters! You can tell alot from how someone treats a waiter!) If Ed is not treating people right, then God will pull his ministry’s success from him, and people will leave. If not, then we all need to quit listening to the investigative reporter(who, by the way, has done several negative stories against Christian leaders in Dallas in the last few years) and give the man his due for what he’s done. Also, Matt’s church is about 1/4th of the estimated size of Ed’s congregation, so it’s really an apples/oranges comparison. The media likes to pinhole people….Matt Chandler is far more than a humble ‘golly jee’ guy with an unfortunate situation, and Ed Young is more than a flashy, slick TV personality. I really hope people will not be fast to judge and realize that God knows all and will take care of his people regardless.

By: KevinRossen

KevinRossen — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:46:35 +0000

Did you watch the whole video? I haven't yet.

By: John M. Kirton II

John M. Kirton II — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:08:57 +0000

Just saw this today: http://www.edyoungblog.com/2010/02/moving-on.html Wasn't very convincing of a man living humbly!

By: agent

agent — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:43:10 +0000

From Rick Warren, Purpose Driven Life" author:

Speaking about his "purpose driven" success, in 2005 Warren told U.S. News and World Report, "It brought in a ton of money. The first thing we decided was that we wouldn't let it change our lifestyle one bit." Even after achieving notoriety and great prosperity, Warren and his family continued to live in the same home and drive the same vehicle. He said, "Next, I stopped taking a salary from the church. Then I added up all the church had paid me in the previous 25 years and I gave it back." Living on only 10% of their income, he and his wife began to give away the rest in a type of "reverse tithing" principle.